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[info]erasedinjection wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 06:59 pm (UTC)
Yay evolution!
[info]petshopboy1983 wrote:
Feb. 15th, 2006 05:33 pm (UTC)
:D
[info]animedude wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 07:33 pm (UTC)
Darwin was a racist who thought the anglo-saxin race was superior.
[info]sweetconcord wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 09:50 pm (UTC)
He also had an almost childlike fascination with worms. That doesn't negate the importance or enormity of his Theory.
[info]animedude wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 10:33 pm (UTC)
It kinda does.
[info]sweetconcord wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 12:19 am (UTC)
How??

His personal philosophies have nothing to do with whether or not his scientific ideas are valid or not.
Isaac Newton firmly believed in alchemy, but his principles of physics are still considered the foundation of all science (except quantum physics, but that doesn't count). Pythagoras believed that the universe was literally built out of mathematics, and yet we still use his theorum to fiddle with triangles. Edgar Allen Poe was a brilliant author whose works are considered by many to be the pinnacle of American Romantic writing, but he was a chronically depressive, maladjusted alcoholic who married his thirteen-year old cousin.

Brilliance does not require perfection.
[info]animedude wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 12:45 am (UTC)
Dude, Edgar Allen Poe was seriously fucked up. He is not a good example for your argument.
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 13th, 2006 03:33 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 09:49 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 13th, 2006 05:14 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 04:04 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 04:53 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 04:57 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:05 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:07 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:10 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:14 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:57 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:12 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:16 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:17 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:20 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:34 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:35 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:42 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 06:57 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:01 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:02 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:03 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:08 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:10 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:11 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 07:14 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:19 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:20 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:23 pm (UTC)
[info]petshopboy1983 wrote:
Feb. 15th, 2006 05:26 pm (UTC)
I'm telling you, you will have a more rewarding conversation with a bookend.
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 16th, 2006 02:38 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 16th, 2006 05:27 pm (UTC)
[info]tlhinganhom wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 04:02 am (UTC)
Soooo... just to make sure I understand what you're saying here: because someone's morals didn't agree with yours, their non-partial, scientific work is of no consequence?
[info]dclarion wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 10:28 pm (UTC)
That's "Anglo-Saxon". And, of course he was. The entire British Empire was of that mind. Even his Theory was influenced by the mindset of Britain of the Industrial Revolution. It is remarkable, however, that only a "minor" modification (Survival of the Fittest => Extinction of the Unfit) cements the Theory of Evolution into something incontrovertible.

Excellent pattern-recognition skills, had he...
[info]animedude wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 10:37 pm (UTC)
Why are we listening to someone like that?
[info]nodding_folk wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 10:42 pm (UTC)
Beacuse his theory was right.
[info]animedude wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 11:06 pm (UTC)
No "theory" can be right, by definition. It's just the best answer we have now.
(no subject) - [info]nodding_folk - Feb. 12th, 2006 11:53 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 13th, 2006 12:26 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 12:47 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 13th, 2006 03:51 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 10:22 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 13th, 2006 05:06 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]stephendedalus0 - Feb. 13th, 2006 06:45 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 10:20 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]tlhinganhom - Feb. 13th, 2006 05:48 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 06:23 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]tlhinganhom - Feb. 13th, 2006 06:29 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 07:16 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 03:55 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 03:57 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]stephendedalus0 - Feb. 13th, 2006 08:08 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 04:03 pm (UTC)
[info]nodding_folk wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 10:42 pm (UTC)
Have you been reading too much creationist propaganda?
[info]animedude wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 11:05 pm (UTC)
I'm not a creationist in anyway... just stating a fact. How does saying "Darwin belived this" mean "God made the universe in 7 days"?
[info]nodding_folk wrote:
Feb. 12th, 2006 11:53 pm (UTC)
Ad hominem attacks on Darwin are a standard Creationist tactic. Somehow things like his firm opposition to slavery are "forgotten".

Not all Creationists believe the universe was made in seven days.
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 12:06 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]tlhinganhom - Feb. 13th, 2006 04:06 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 10:19 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]tlhinganhom - Feb. 13th, 2006 02:59 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 06:24 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]tlhinganhom - Feb. 13th, 2006 06:28 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 03:56 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 15th, 2006 04:56 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 05:02 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 16th, 2006 02:34 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 16th, 2006 08:48 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 16th, 2006 09:37 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 16th, 2006 09:42 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]tlhinganhom - Feb. 16th, 2006 03:51 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 16th, 2006 06:44 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]tlhinganhom - Feb. 16th, 2006 07:54 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 16th, 2006 05:31 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 17th, 2006 06:56 am (UTC)
[info]stephendedalus0 wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 06:43 am (UTC)
This is absolutely false.
[info]stephendedalus0 wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 06:56 am (UTC)
And let me tell you why...

By today's standards, Darwin probably would be considered racist; by the standards of his day, Darwin was much more egalitarian than most everyone else. He was a staunch opponent of slavery and had compassion for members of other races. This attitude can be said to be a direct result of his science. Evolution does not say that races or species are superior or inferior to others, only that some survive better than others. Darwin knew this quite well. He was an abolitionist and spoke strongly against slavery. In The Descent of Man he concludes that all humans are probably the member of the same species, and that they do not vary enough to be classified as separate ones.

It is only through a great misunderstanding of Darwin and evolution that people assume the science is racist.
[info]tlhinganhom wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 07:27 am (UTC)
[info]animedude wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 10:23 am (UTC)
If Evolution does not say that races or species are superior or inferior to others, then why did he belive that?
[info]stephendedalus0 wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 08:05 pm (UTC)
I just told you that he didn't believe that at all.
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 09:03 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]stephendedalus0 - Feb. 13th, 2006 09:16 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]animedude - Feb. 13th, 2006 09:18 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]sweetconcord - Feb. 13th, 2006 09:37 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]stephendedalus0 - Feb. 13th, 2006 10:42 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 03:48 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [info]petshopboy1983 - Feb. 15th, 2006 03:53 pm (UTC)
[info]dclarion wrote:
Feb. 14th, 2006 07:53 am (UTC)
Liebe Gott! Someone understands that you can't drop a modern mindset on a historical culture and end up with anything sensible. Revisionist history is as absurd as giving Fred Flintstone a pet dinosaur...
[info]petshopboy1983 wrote:
Feb. 15th, 2006 05:32 pm (UTC)
Show your work.
[info]hokkaido_crying wrote:
Feb. 13th, 2006 09:32 am (UTC)
[info]petshopboy1983 wrote:
Feb. 15th, 2006 04:05 pm (UTC)
Yay!
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